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laplander0
06-23-2010, 10:03 AM
I have been so excited about my gt500 on order. I have shot only mathews for years. I shot a friends gt500 and really loved it but mine is so slow. I spent the majority of last night reading about how to tune the bow and it seems a little overwhelming but I will get it done, maybe. I am tempted to sell this one and order another to see if I get better results. You would think they would be better than what they are out of the box. 28.5" IBO is 300-303...set at 70"checked on 2 different scales and chronographs. This was the bow I was going to commit myself to going to the next level for me competitively. any idea's ..I guess I just wanted to vent

Smeagol
06-23-2010, 10:19 AM
Um, you didn't state what speed you bow is getting, nor the arrow weight and what you have on your string.

talon1961
06-23-2010, 10:50 AM
Send it to Nate at "Tater's Archery Solutions" he'll get you fixed up. He found 6+fps more out of my already "fast" bow and now it has a valley to die for.
It's amazing what he can do for a bow.
http://tatersarcherysolutions.weebly.com/:welcome:

Rev. Juan
06-23-2010, 11:11 AM
Um, you didn't state what speed you bow is getting, nor the arrow weight and what you have on your string.

+1

For the average person you can shoot it right out of the box with no problem. It's when you are after the speed & all the hidden goodies that make you pull out your hair.

Their are a lot of guys on here that are very good at tunning these babies! That how I got started :luck:

laplander0
06-23-2010, 11:15 AM
the arrow weight was 353grns....70# draw weight...all I had on the factory string is a d-loop...no peep, or anything else...we were just checkn speed

laplander0
06-23-2010, 11:24 AM
the speed is 300-303fps

TheFist
06-23-2010, 12:15 PM
I think the only thing you might be able to do is check your cam synch. If thats on check your draw length and make sure its not running a little short, thats not very common but is possible.

After that, if you want a few extra fps you'll have to play around with nocks or eliminator buttons near the cams and shoot a bunch of arrows through the chrono.

Elite makes a real nice bow. I read through all kinds of threads on the internet here and on A.T. for about a year before I bought one. Maybe even longer; what I found was that almost exclusively, the owners loved the way the bows shot, but nobody was getting the kind of speed out of them that Elite claims.

I saw several posts where guys where shooting 5 grains per pound and 31 to 32" dl's and still not hitting the IBO.

talon1961
06-23-2010, 12:26 PM
Set it up on a drawboard. Check cam timing, ata, bh, dl, and # draw weight. You might be surprised at the initial settings. Mine was supposed to be set at 70#, but was actually 68, the ata, dl, and % lo was a bit out of spec. After getting it set up correctly, I gained 6+ fps and got a great valley to boot. The bow shot great out of the box, a little slower than I thought it would, but with a nice tune job by "Tater", its a sweet shooter for sure! 314 fps w/394 gr Maxima Hunter!(321 fps w/ 374 gr. Maxima 350's) @70.7# 29.5" 80% letoff.

laplander0
06-23-2010, 12:46 PM
i sent tater an email. asking him about turnaround on bow...thanks for the input...I will prolly mess with it before he's ready for it...I guess he can always fix it but i want to be able to do this myself.

archer58inPA
06-23-2010, 01:06 PM
If the bow is peaking at 6-6.5" into the draw and the cams are in sync, AND you have checked DW and DL , then I would find another chrono to shoot through. Verify the chrono readings and other variables.
My GT at 28/70 shoots 315fps.

Tater
06-23-2010, 01:55 PM
Set it up on a drawboard. Check cam timing, ata, bh, dl, and # draw weight. You might be surprised at the initial settings. Mine was supposed to be set at 70#, but was actually 68, the ata, dl, and % lo was a bit out of spec. After getting it set up correctly, I gained 6+ fps and got a great valley to boot. The bow shot great out of the box, a little slower than I thought it would, but with a nice tune job by "Tater", its a sweet shooter for sure! 314 fps w/394 gr Maxima Hunter!(321 fps w/ 374 gr. Maxima 350's) @70.7# 29.5" 80% letoff.

Thanks for the kind words Sammie.



i sent tater an email. asking him about turnaround on bow...thanks for the input...I will prolly mess with it before he's ready for it...I guess he can always fix it but i want to be able to do this myself.

Email returned Levi.

laplander0
06-23-2010, 02:58 PM
i really appreciate everyone's interest in trying to help me. thanks so much for all the input

vhunter
06-23-2010, 03:09 PM
If your not happy with it take it back to your dealer and have then fix it, or deal with Elite directly. Elite has great costumer service and they thrive on making there costumers happy. You shouldn't have to pay to have a new bow tuned. You are about 15 to 20 FPS slow. Elite will fix you up.

Full Draw Hunts
06-23-2010, 03:28 PM
Do yourself a favor and send it up to Tim Zimmerman at Taz Archery in Illinois. He's the man with these bows! He'll get it right and get it back to you fast!

Deer3083
06-23-2010, 04:09 PM
That is slow but your bow needs to be tuned. At 28.5 in draw 64.5 lbs and a 384 grain arrow im hitting 293 fps. So if i were to crank her up to 70 lbs i would be right around 308 fps i think. Which is hitting ibo.

Deer3083
06-23-2010, 04:11 PM
If the bow is peaking at 6-6.5" into the draw and the cams are in sync, AND you have checked DW and DL , then I would find another chrono to shoot through. Verify the chrono readings and other variables.
My GT at 28/70 shoots 315fps.
How heavy of an arrow?

Smeagol
06-23-2010, 04:11 PM
With that setup, you should get around ~318 fps (at least according to some calculators on the web).

TEXAS 10PT
06-23-2010, 04:26 PM
How heavy of an arrow?

350gr IBO arrow.

TEXAS

archer58inPA
06-23-2010, 04:34 PM
How heavy of an arrow?
351 grains

archer58inPA
06-23-2010, 04:35 PM
350gr IBO arrow.

TEXAS
I didn't see you responded. Thanks man. But you're 1 grain off. LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Deer3083
06-23-2010, 04:49 PM
I didn't see you responded. Thanks man. But you're 1 grain off. LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Oh ok. If I dropped to a 350 grain arrow and went up to 70 I would be just a tad faster cause of the half in difference in draw. I'm guessing no more tha 5 fps though .

laplander0
06-23-2010, 05:34 PM
we played with it somemore this afternoon with a different set of scales and chronograph. still no better. I talked to tater over the phone. He seems like a real knowledgible guy, its going out in the mail tomorrow, but your right I shouldn't have to pay to have a new bow tuned...we tried different weight of pull and different arrows today over lunch...all speeds were less than 303fps...we did 70# and 353grn arrow and we also just for fun tried 67# and 338grn arrow...all speeds between 300 and 303 ..and remember all I have on string is a d loop, so it will get worse. anyway I believe from all the testimonies elite's r a great bow and the feel of the wall is so sweet, I am hoping I can get this remedied. the weird deal is it cams rollover on the same spot and the drawlength measures right. the cam marks r only slightly off ...its supposed to b .035 below limb and they r even with limb...I hope tater can fix it.

archer58inPA
06-23-2010, 08:25 PM
Oh ok. If I dropped to a 350 grain arrow and went up to 70 I would be just a tad faster cause of the half in difference in draw. I'm guessing no more tha 5 fps though .

Yes, about 5.

archer58inPA
06-23-2010, 08:30 PM
That is slow but your bow needs to be tuned. At 28.5 in draw 64.5 lbs and a 384 grain arrow im hitting 293 fps. So if i were to crank her up to 70 lbs i would be right around 308 fps i think. Which is hitting ibo.

You would be at 314fps +/-.

384gr.-322gr(for 64.5lbs at IBO weight)= 62gr / 3 = 21fps.

293+21= 314fps.

Deer3083
06-23-2010, 08:35 PM
You would be at 314fps +/-.

384gr.-322gr(for 64.5lbs at IBO weight)= 62gr / 3 = 21fps.

293+21= 314fps.

Oh ok. I was a tad off. Thanks bud :)

Topcat
06-23-2010, 08:45 PM
My GT500 shoots 305 fps, with 310 grn arrow, 62#, 28 3/8" dl. This is plenty fast for me.

Hunterpete
06-23-2010, 08:52 PM
My 61 lb. Z 28 at 27" shoots a 490 grain arrow 229....Smokin!!!!! Seriously though, we reduced and refined all of the speeds on our bows this year and have had no push back on our posted speeds. In previous years the speeds were overstated.

Pete

yotekiller
06-23-2010, 10:39 PM
pete u da man!

Don Beaver
06-23-2010, 10:48 PM
My 61 lb. Z 28 at 27" shoots a 490 grain arrow 229....Smokin!!!!! Seriously though, we reduced and refined all of the speeds on our bows this year and have had no push back on our posted speeds. In previous years the speeds were overstated.

Pete

I heard you like 'em smooth and don't care much about arrow speed, but say it ain't so... 229? :)

Deer3083
06-23-2010, 11:52 PM
My 61 lb. Z 28 at 27" shoots a 490 grain arrow 229....Smokin!!!!! Seriously though, we reduced and refined all of the speeds on our bows this year and have had no push back on our posted speeds. In previous years the speeds were overstated.

Pete
And I got all the respect in the world for ya too pete. Will that set up kill elk? Im just curious is all to see if my setup is good enough.:)

yotekiller
06-24-2010, 08:08 AM
heck ya that'll kill an elk if you put a good shot on him/her! no matter the animal its all about SHOOT PLACEMENT! people get so caught up in the numbers that sometimes they lose sight that its all about shot placement not speed and all that crap. sorry not trying to hijack or sound like an Ahole. i mean dont try and go kill one with a kids toy bow or anything but you use a heavy arrow with a good sharp broadhead and put it in the pumpstation and it will kill him/her. JM2C. hee hee hee

laplander0
06-25-2010, 11:46 AM
my bow has been sent off for a tatertune, I will let you know if he finds some speed in it..should be in about a 10days or 2 weeks

buckslayr
06-26-2010, 03:21 PM
mine is set at 65#s,28"drw,416gr.arrow.273fps,that is right on IBO, considering I have 25gr.on the string.smooth shooter.