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mcflygb
01-05-2011, 06:03 PM
Im down to these two bows. Price is the same so that is a none issue. I shot the Z7 and Pulse yesterday, I liked them both a lot. I will mainly use them for hunting and some 3d shooting. I want to go back and shoot the Z7 extreme one last time before I make a decision. What is everyone elses take? Dont be biased because you own an elite. Thank You.

ntypicl11
01-05-2011, 06:07 PM
I had a Mathews that I bought new! My question is, if you have a problem, that may be questioned by the company, will your dealer stand behind you 100%? Or maybe, just maybe, would you have to contact the company yourself? I have been waiting almost 3 years for a call back, and/or an email from, you guessed it, it's not Elite!!!

Smeagol
01-05-2011, 06:08 PM
Are you shooting the Z7 w/o a stab? If not, try it.

Do you do any long distance shooting, i.e. great than the sweet ~20 yards that many deer in tree-stands are taken? I'd say the short ATA Z7 is built towards a nice 20-30 yard shot. The Pulse is going to work in that sweet spot plus a wider range of shots.

Also, the wall of these 2 bows are night & day different. The Pulse is going to have the legendary Elite hard-rock back wall. The Z7 is going to be spongy. What type of wall do you like to shoot off of?

I know a deer doesn't look at your bow and keel over dead…but aesthetically speaking, I much prefer the look of the Elite Pulse over the Z7.

Hoosierflogger
01-05-2011, 06:08 PM
Im down to these two bows. Price is the same so that is a none issue. I shot the Z7 and Pulse yesterday, I liked them both a lot. I will mainly use them for hunting and some 3d shooting. I want to go back and shoot the Z7 extreme one last time before I make a decision. What is everyone elses take? Dont be biased because you own an elite. Thank You.


Mama says single cams are the debil!

ROCKETMAN
01-05-2011, 06:14 PM
Two different animals. I've only shot the Z. The lack of a solid wall on the Z bothers me. The draw specific cam is not a favorite of mine either. I will say that if you are a die hard bow hunter, it's a fine bow. Although there are others I would prefer, I'd hunt with it.

As mentioned, give the Hunter a hard look.

bbmclain
01-05-2011, 06:15 PM
Last January I bought a new Z7, and I thought it was the best bow I had ever shot. Spent the spring and summer shooting it and loving it........but I kept reading about these ELITE bows.

So after my curiosity got the best of me, I found a dealer and went to shoot a Z28. Liked it and brought it home. I had ALL intentions of keeping both......until after about 2 weeks shooting both side by side. I then realized the differences to ME, and the Z28 stood HEAD AND SHOULDERS above the Z7.

Less than a week later, and almost time for bow season to open, I sold the Z7 and focused on the Z28. I have since bought a PURE, sold the Z28 and have a PULSE on order.

Elite as a company has it's priority correct......They are so ridiculously efficient with customer service, and they just make things RIGHT.

So for me......ELITE!!!!

jamesbowman
01-05-2011, 06:35 PM
Your going toave much more speed form the Pulse and much better draw and fit and finish.

cicero
01-05-2011, 06:42 PM
I shot the extreme at local shops open house. It did shoot well, but I thought the elites were better in my opinion in every category. Plus where else can you pm the owner of the bow company and get his input into a problem or anything in general.

No matter what anybody says its your decision. I have a destroyer that I was about to sell before I sent it to have strings installed and tuned. Some people don't like the bow but I do for hunting. But with that said I think it is gonna be pushed to backup when I decide between a Hunter and Pulse for my 2nd Elite in the stable.

Smart
01-05-2011, 07:15 PM
I owned and liked Mathews bows for 4 years and included it in my search for a new bow. I now have an 60lb Ninja Elite Pulse. I own one because the easy draw, the smoothness, the solid solid backwall, the finish and the speed made it heads above the others I tried including the Z7 (and I tried them all).

The easy/smooth draw for a speed bow and the solid backwall make the hunting aspect so much nicer when it's go time.. The other characteristics, I don't even notice in the heat of the moment but make practicing more pleasurable.....:D

bbmclain
01-05-2011, 07:26 PM
Mama says single cams are the debil!

That is funny!!!

Schpankme
01-05-2011, 07:44 PM
... Im down to these two bows (Z7 and Pulse).
... I shot the Z7 and Pulse yesterday
... I liked them both a lot.
... I will mainly use them for hunting and some 3d shooting.


Both are fantastic Bows, you'll find the Elite to be built of the highest materials and craftsmanship; fit and finish on the Elite Bows can not be beat.

I'd been with Mathews since they released the 2005 Switchback; to this day that bow is hard to beat.

Your making the same decision that faced me just a few weeks ago! My original thought was to go for the fastest smallest Bow and forgo any benefit from the longer ATA, etc. However, I've been a Traditional practitioner since the age of 18 months. My thoughts soon turned to my favorite wood bows and they were on avg 60" from ntn.

Frankly, anything compound related is grossly smaller in length then my Wood Bows. So, I got the best of both worlds, I went with the ELITE PURE. It has the smoothest draw and best back-wall out of the dozens of Bows, I've tested. That decision was really easy, ELITE.

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mongopino915
01-05-2011, 08:54 PM
I know you said no bias opinion. You will not get a non-biased opinion by posting this question here on EAF.

My personal non-biased opinion is that the Z is a great bow and the Pulse is a whole different beast. The only way to pick one is to buy both and shoot them for awhile and you will know which one to sell. Good Luck!

My biased opinion is that the Z and Pulse are not even in the same league.

I loved the DXT and was my first bow but after shooting the Z28, the DXT basically collected dust in the basement. The ZXT with a 28" ATA is even shorter, just not my flavor.

hoefj
01-05-2011, 09:16 PM
ask this question on the mathews forum and it will be all z7... if you like they way both feel, hold, and shoot the same, i would go with what you think looks nicer, i cant stand the gridlock riser...

mathews8pt
01-05-2011, 09:26 PM
I know this isnt exactly what your comparing, but i went from a switchback to a gt500 and wouldnt go back. For me it was the difference in the backwall and valley. I havent shot a bow that compares in that area. The pulse i tested has a great back wall and valley as well, i hope to get one some day soon.

Shoot them both again and get the one that feels best

Smart
01-05-2011, 09:37 PM
I forgot about mentioning the grip in being a major factor to my Elite choice above as well. I switch out the grip on my Mathews a week after I owned it..

jksnvly
01-05-2011, 09:43 PM
For me the Pulse. I haven't shot the Extreme and won't due to its ATA length. I shot the original Z7 and did not care for it at all. Now the M7 was a different story, IMO Mathews best offering to date.

eagle-357
01-05-2011, 09:46 PM
:welcome: to the EAF and the Elite addiction, :woohoo:

Find a shop that sells both lines, and shoot them both side by side. Let the bow pick you.

If you can't find a shop that sells both, then buy each one. Figure out what bow works best for you and sell the other one. Or even keep it for a back up bow. :)

IRISH66
01-06-2011, 12:13 AM
shoot each one blindfolded and pick the one that feels best.
a little trick I learned by reading someone elses post LOL

Don't forget about the warranty and the overall customer service, with Elite you are somebody and you are heard when you have a question or need help. Not so sure about Mathews in that respect, Both are quality bows

pumba
01-06-2011, 06:01 AM
Both are excellent bows, although I didnt like my Z7 and sold it after a couple a months, tried Elites and the rest is history. The main drawing point with Elite is the transferable warranty and great back up service. If you want a great shooting accurate easy drawing with a great wall get the Pulse, IMHO the transferable warranty is a big selling point when you go to upgrade for a new elite

ntypicl11
01-06-2011, 10:18 AM
[QUOTE=archerybuff;381839]I have never had a problem with Mathews when it comes to service or warranty work. Granted thier warranty is for the original purchaser so maybe that is why I was treated somebody when I had a problem.

I did buy it new! 1 day old, 1st time out shooting it, it had an issue the shop wouldn't and couldn't fix!

IRISH66
01-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Not exactly sure why someone would come on EAF and ask a question like this, surely you understand most of the comments are going to be biased. Like someone else said earlier if you ask the same question on Mathews site you would get the other end of the spectrum.
I have never had a problem with Mathews when it comes to service or warranty work. Granted thier warranty is for the original purchaser so maybe that is why I was treated somebody when I had a problem.
The two bows you are considering are 2 different styles and both are excellent choices for thier particular intentions. IMO The Pulse would be more at home on a 3-D course, the Z more of a hunting bow. Both bows are excellent shooters and will crossover nicely. I would think the Hunter would be more of a comparison to the Z7 than the Pulse. Or the Z7 or MR7 compared to the Pulse.
If I were leaving tomorrow on a Colorado elk trip I would rather have a Z7 Extreme over the Pulse. If I spent several weekends a month on the 3-D course I would probably choose the Pulse. I prefer longer ATA bows so I chose the Pure over both the Pulse and Z7X.
I would shoot 20-30 arrows out of each and let the bow pick you.
Well that is great that you are somebody.
my reference is valid from MY standpoint in dealing with this company and I have know plenty of other non satisfied customers form this company's CS.

Sorry, I should have stated IMO(and a handful of others)

mcflygb
01-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Thanks for all your opinions. I just ordered a 60# Pulse 29" draw in black and snow camo!

ntypicl11
01-06-2011, 12:11 PM
"it had an issue the shop wouldn't and couldn't fix!"
Bull! The shop can/will fix anything... unless you cut the string or something like that.

You don't go to the same shop do you? So tell me how you know this?

Schpankme
01-06-2011, 12:54 PM
... Thanks for all your opinions.
... I just ordered a 60# Pulse 29" draw in black and snow camo!


SWEET! Now that you have half the battle won; it's time to wade through the hundreds of 'Optional Equipment' to put on your bow (Sights, stabs, peeps).

:luck:

nybowhuntr
01-06-2011, 01:14 PM
I forgot about mentioning the grip in being a major factor to my Elite choice above as well. I switch out the grip on my Mathews a week after I owned it..

I've loved all of my Mathews' bows, but always switched grips as well. That's the only issue I ever had with anything Mathews.

Smart
01-06-2011, 02:15 PM
Thanks for all your opinions. I just ordered a 60# Pulse 29" draw in black and snow camo!


Man I hate to tell you this but you just ordered a bow you won't be able to put down....I hope you enjoy shooting.;)

Congrats on the new purchase......:D

mcflygb
01-06-2011, 02:25 PM
Let me add this...my new Elite is replacing an 8 year old AR34 which i love but the new technology is unreal!

ntypicl11
01-06-2011, 02:30 PM
That was the last bow I owned before I went to Elite! Got my first P&Y with that thing. You are gonna love the Pulse!

HORSEMOVER
01-06-2011, 02:44 PM
"it had an issue the shop wouldn't and couldn't fix!"
Bull! The shop can/will fix anything... unless you cut the string or something like that.


I am curious as well how you are so familiar with HIS situation. Please enlighten us.

ntypicl11
01-06-2011, 03:35 PM
I am curious as well how you are so familiar with HIS situation. Please enlighten us.
Its okay HM!

By the way, this same shop sells, well, they are an Elite dealer. They couldn't figure out how to route my cables on my Elite Synergy. Thats why I drive 60+ miles to a different shop.

HORSEMOVER
01-06-2011, 04:21 PM
Its okay HM!


Sorry...I got a little roid rage lately. Been trying out some new product but the dosage must be too high. I just knocked out the mail man about an hour ago for delivering my Discover bill from Christmas. :D

ntypicl11
01-06-2011, 05:11 PM
Got a roid problem aye? Maybe yur draw weights a little high. LMAO

HORSEMOVER
01-06-2011, 06:11 PM
Got a roid problem aye? Maybe yur draw weights a little high. LMAO

Don't make me come after you now. :) Serious question for you...think I'm going to get sued by my mailman now?

ntypicl11
01-06-2011, 06:12 PM
Don't make me come after you now. :) Serious question for you...think I'm going to get sued by my mailman now?

Just put it on your card! lol

HORSEMOVER
01-07-2011, 02:33 PM
Just put it on your card! lol


More roids or the settlement with my mail man :noidea:




:muscleman:

ntypicl11
01-07-2011, 04:24 PM
Maybe the mailman could have helped with your roids! Special recipe???LMAO

Tikobravi
01-07-2011, 05:02 PM
After reading a few replies regarding the z7's A-A, I had to go visit the :censored2: Mathews site to see for myself. There's 5 different variations of the z7...5! How confusing...

Anyhow, ya the z7 Xtreme has a 28" A-A and believe it or not 'Monkey Tails'! Go see for yourself...I counted 3 :censored2: 'monkey tails' whatever the :censored2: that is.:noidea:

Eitherway, the 28" A-A is going to give you severe string angle unless you're 4.5' tall or less. Any taller and your peep is gonna be like 10" from your eye... Has anybody patented any kind of peep sight adapter yet? ...besides that, I cant get over the 'monkey tails'. How can anybody look at somebodys z7 and not crack up laughing everytime they see a monkey tail?!!!:D

TexasCanesFan
01-07-2011, 05:06 PM
and believe it or not 'Monkey Tails'! Go see for yourself...I counted 3 :censored2: 'monkey tails' whatever the :censored2: that is.:noidea:

It is the part that sticks out right above his :censored2:.

Like this, see??

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/IMG/IMG010/120161H.jpg

That is a "field researcher" from Mathews on the left.

Grizz
01-07-2011, 05:11 PM
It is the part that sticks out right above his :censored2:.

Like this, see??

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/IMG/IMG010/120161H.jpg

That is a "field researcher" from Mathews on the left.

That monkey tail has the beginnings of a heart under it.:rofl::rofl::rofl::eek:

TexasCanesFan
01-07-2011, 05:12 PM
That monkey tail has the beginnings of a heart under it.:rofl::rofl::rofl::eek:

You are a sick sick SICK :censored2: :censored2:.

Grizz
01-07-2011, 05:14 PM
You are a sick sick SICK :censored2: :censored2:.

You must refer to TomKat's thread about this, not my heart threads. ;)

chappy
01-07-2011, 08:12 PM
That monkey tail has the beginnings of a heart under it.:rofl::rofl::rofl::eek:
Hence the term "Texas Heart Shot"!!!!! Hit the pucker!!!!