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shootinfast
03-16-2011, 03:17 PM
I dont know whats wrong but I had to lower my sight to get it too shoot . I meen I lowered the bracket from pin housing and still had too drop it down a bunch never had this problem before it shoots well at 20 yards Im stacking arrows . I havent shot longer due too weather . I have the arrows just slightly higher than center of berger holes . could my nock height be too high? Or is it just the way it is for me?

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 03:22 PM
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heres picture am I ok not getting contact

superdiablo
03-16-2011, 03:26 PM
Sounds like a form issue, probably your anchor point is high in your face ... Can you post a pic of yourself at normal shooting position?

TANC
03-16-2011, 03:29 PM
Anchoring high cause your peep is too low. Give yourself more distance from the nocking point to the peep.

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 03:32 PM
Not yet, home for lunch no one to take pics. I will tonight. Its weird to me I was shooting 20 yards indoor yesterday after I set the sight like that and was shooting all x's with a hunting sight slapping arrows even tore a fletch and this is in the first 50 arrows I put thru the bow. I should leave it alone but I know it isnt right.

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 03:38 PM
Anchoring high cause your peep is too low. Give yourself more distance from the nocking point to the peep.

I had them install a new peep I anchor with the tip of my nose to string .I close my eyes when I draw anchored then open my eyes to set peep location feels good nothing different than I've done for years bow draw length Is a 1/2 inch shorter than I'm used too (Mod on order) but Ive shot other bows at 29 inches. I have a little longer loop to help.

ntypicl11
03-16-2011, 03:44 PM
Its really hard to see your pic, but it looks like you arrow is too high in the berger holes.

ntypicl11
03-16-2011, 03:45 PM
Also looks nock high, but your fingers in the way.

deerct101
03-16-2011, 03:47 PM
I had a similar issue with my Hunter and a Spott Hogg sight couldn't get enough veritcle travel. Bought a drop mount and couldn't get enough travel to the right after installing the drop mount. Traded the Hogg for an HHA single pin and problem was solved.

devin1
03-16-2011, 03:55 PM
Yea, it looks like the bottom of your arrow is flush with the top of the berger holes. Kinda hard to tell though. Is that right? It should be close to dead center thru the berger holes.

miller1
03-16-2011, 04:05 PM
this must be an Elite thing because i have the same issue, not as bad but my sight is way lower than on any other bow i have had, my index knuckle is under my earlobe and my string crosses the tip on my nose, i shot many bows like this and elite is the only one where my sight is that low. If somebody has a different brand of bow they should measure from the burger hole to the sight mounting holes and compare them.

TANC
03-16-2011, 04:14 PM
If it's like this at 20 yards, how do you think it's gonna be at 50 or greater? Yep. MUCH worse. One of the things we field shooters fight is enough room at 80 yards. But not 20. It shouldn't even be close at 20. The heavier an arrow and slower a bow, the worse this is.

You can lower your rest and nocking point till the arrow covers the berger holes (which I would do), but I don't think you'll find this helps much. If it's truly in tune, your peep to nocking point seperation has to increase, which will affect how you anchor and give you more clearance between sight and arrow.

For the record, I saw a guy yesterday shooting through paper and getting a perfect bullet hole. Problem is he looked like he was shooting at his feet. This means that perfect hole is really nock low. So be sure your tuning is on a perfect parallel to level ground. In his case, proper adjustment would make him shoot lower and need to lower his sight. Maybe yours is fine ?

wassaw
03-16-2011, 04:18 PM
Its really hard to see your pic, but it looks like you arrow is too high in the berger holes.

that was the first thing i saw in the picture also. (top angle with the camera but the bottom of the berger holes are showing. should be seeing the top of the holes with that camera angle)

Maybee-R
03-16-2011, 05:40 PM
Slide the 20 pin lower in the sight housing can help also.
Looks like the rest is too high like others said. reset the nock and arrow to 90 degrees with the berger holes.
Lower housing like that is usually from a high anchor or low peep.

mfr22@msn.com
03-16-2011, 05:54 PM
I too think your rest is set too high, I'd fix that first. If that is a fixed pin sight, and your 20 yard pin is toward the top of the housing and you are not having clearance issues with your fletchings, then I would think you should be OK.

IRISH66
03-16-2011, 06:06 PM
I had to lower my anchor point because I was having the same problem. Not that hard to change and get use too, good luck

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 06:35 PM
my arrows are on top the berger holes do I need to lower the nock point if I lower the rest ?

jjohnson
03-16-2011, 06:40 PM
Your arrow should be covering up the berger holes and 90 degrees to string. Like others have said you could move all your pins down a bit in the sight housing and/or change the way you anchor in your face so your peep goes up.

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 06:43 PM
I just moved rest and put arrows in center of berger holes arrow has a slight cant down. I would have to move nock point to get it at 90 degree angle .Im going to have my son take a picture at full draw to see how the arrow sits on rest a full draw.

KodiakArcher
03-16-2011, 06:53 PM
If you lowered your rest you're going to have to lower your nock point on the string and lower your peep so that you maintain your anchor point and sight picture.

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 06:57 PM
Here is pic at full draw the arrow isnt pointed down to bad I think this will work for now just want to shoot this weekend then bow is getting broke down for dip.




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KodiakArcher
03-16-2011, 07:07 PM
Here is pic at full draw the arrow isnt pointed down to bad I think this will work for now just want to shoot this weekend then bow is getting broke down for dip.




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At full draw the only thing to compare it to is the parallel plane of your stabilizer. In relation to that it looks like you're shooting into the dirt. Get your rest set so that the shaft is running through the center of your Berger holes and set your nock point so the arrow is 90 degrees to your string as everyone has said and your problem will be solved.

rembrandt
03-16-2011, 07:31 PM
I have just the opposite problem with the sight on my Energy. I can't get the sight high enough. Its maxed out in the extended bracket and I'm shooting a foot high. I just had new strings put on, peep, kisser and D-Loop. Came home put the pin in the normal position and shot the neighbors barn 100 yds behind the bag........

I don't mean to jack ops thread but I have the same problem but just he opposite......

shootinfast
03-16-2011, 07:32 PM
At full draw the only thing to compare it to is the parallel plane of your stabilizer. In relation to that it looks like you're shooting into the dirt. Get your rest set so that the shaft is running through the center of your Berger holes and set your nock point so the arrow is 90 degrees to your string as everyone has said and your problem will be solved.

Yeah going to proshop tonight the nock is to high.

nagster
03-16-2011, 07:38 PM
good luck let us know how it works out

Elite 734
03-16-2011, 07:39 PM
my arrows are on top the berger holes do I need to lower the nock point if I lower the rest ?

I would say most defiantly. It looks to me like your arrow is sitting to high. If you lower your rest you will have to lower your nock.

If you lower your nock you may have to lower your peep also to get your anchor correct.

I'm not a pro but this is just what I think.

shootinfast
03-17-2011, 12:10 AM
Well just got back from proshop nock was high like I thought. We fixed that .Stll shot 3 feet low Danny the owner took my bow drew and said my peep was way too low moved it up alot still shot low but that I can live with that . Sight housing is low but not way extreme like before. Just having to learn a different way of anchoring it will take time and practice . Thanks everyone for the help I didnt realize how bad I lean my head on the string I almost hunch over, new anchor makes me stand up straight if that makes any sense at all. My axe had multiple sight holes so I just masked a shooting issue by running my sight on the bottom.

DAVE K
03-17-2011, 12:39 PM
Hard to tell but it did look like you where anchoring to high and leaning your face into the string to shoot. Nice bow by the way.

jjohnson
03-17-2011, 07:07 PM
Well just got back from proshop nock was high like I thought. We fixed that .Stll shot 3 feet low Danny the owner took my bow drew and said my peep was way too low moved it up alot still shot low but that I can live with that . Sight housing is low but not way extreme like before. Just having to learn a different way of anchoring it will take time and practice . Thanks everyone for the help I didnt realize how bad I lean my head on the string I almost hunch over, new anchor makes me stand up straight if that makes any sense at all. My axe had multiple sight holes so I just masked a shooting issue by running my sight on the bottom.


You should get used to your new anchor quick. If your standing up straighter now I bet you will see a big difference in accuracy and less fatigue too. Glad you got it fixed and good luck with the new toy.