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  • Hunting arrow speed question?

    I've been shooting 325+ for a few years now and I'm wondering how much I would miss those 20-40 fps if I picked up a lighter draw weight bow.

    I shoot my 70#er barn-burner comfortably, but could pull a 60# single-cam like butter. I think it would really make a difference hunting a thick, tight spot where movement matters even more. It would also help in cold weather.

    Would I miss the 30-40fps @ 20yds and less?

    The bow I'm looking to pick up is a SBLD. The brace height and light pull would make it a great close range or cold weather hunting bow and I could use my Energy/Envy for when I'm in more open areas with longer shot opportunities (and warmer weather).

    Does this sould like a decent idea? Any thoughts?
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    2006 AT NVG 8" BH Energy with Rev cams
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  • #2
    remember one thing when hunting speed does not kill accuracy does. If you can shoot the lower poundage bow more accuratly then that makes you a better hunter. The fastest bows out there are about half the speed of sound the deer is going to hear your bow before the arrow gets there anyway. The ol lady shoots 52 pounds and has shot pass throughs on deer and a 373 lb black bear with only 52 lbs. Shot placement is what matters not how fast your arrow is going. I think a lot of archers get caught up in the speed war. I myself go for the kinetic enegy more than speed a heaiver shaft for me thus less speed.think about it.
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    • #3
      Accuracy and shot placement, a good sharp BH. I know of a lady that shot an Eland with a GTO, set at about 50 lb, Eland over a 1000 lb's.
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      • #4
        ?

        There have been a lot of animals killed with slow bows. I just wouldn't try and stretch it out to far and keep it whisper quit. I like quit, where they don't know it's comin.
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        • #5
          Very true on a lot of kills with lower bows.
          Roger @ VIERANAS SAFARIS

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          • #6
            Oh, I have no doubt the slower bow will kill just fine. And I agree, accuracy over speed anyday. The 9" brace should really help with tough shots in a treestand, too. My old Martin Prowler @ 64# was not exactly humping my 450gr arrows along, and I got a nice passthrough on a 185# buck 4 years ago.

            Will I still be able to shoot 1 pin out to 20-25yds (hunting accuracy) @ 270-280fps?
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            2006 AT NVG 8" BH Energy with Rev cams
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            • #7
              Do the Math

              Originally posted by ccasanova View Post
              I've been shooting 325+ for a few years now and I'm wondering how much I would miss those 20-40 fps if I picked up a lighter draw weight bow.
              Do you insist on a single cam? I am not familiar with all bow makers specs, but the GT500, on paper can sling a properly sized 330 grain arrow over 325 fps., with a 60# bow. I did some chrono tests with a friend, and these bows will shoot within a few +/- fps of what they say they will on paper.

              You can push a lot of numbers, but as mentioned, shot placement is everything.

              I would be interested on peoples feelings about momentum vs. kenetic energy, vs arrow weight, speed and drop (trajectory tables). Where is more KE more critical than Momentum and vise versa, given average hunting range of archers. I probably should start a new thread on this, so as not to hi-jack this one.

              Good luck,
              Last edited by 5Points; 01-25-2009, 10:16 PM.
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              • #8
                Yeah, the GT500 won't fit my 31" DL and my Energy/Envy is pretty much the same specs, maybe a tad faster.

                I've had a 60# Energy, Envy, and GTO. The solocam is just easier to draw and let down easily. I don't know what it will be like going back and forth, though. Guess I'll just have to practice a lot with both.
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                2006 AT NVG 8" BH Energy with Rev cams
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ccasanova View Post
                  Yeah, the GT500 won't fit my 31" DL and my Energy/Envy is pretty much the same specs, maybe a tad faster.

                  I've had a 60# Energy, Envy, and GTO. The solocam is just easier to draw and let down easily. I don't know what it will be like going back and forth, though. Guess I'll just have to practice a lot with both.
                  Just using that as an example. Numbers are funny.
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                  • #10
                    assuming you shoot 5 gpp @ 70lbs you wont lose 20-40 fps shooting 5 gpp at 60 lbs...did I misunderstand the question???
                    Last edited by NocKed&LoAded; 02-11-2009, 10:53 PM.
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                    • #11
                      The difference is my current bow shoots a 350gr arrow over 350fps. The SBLD's IBO is 295.

                      My hunting arrows are shooting mid 330's and according to OT2 will be around 275 out of the SBLD. That's a big difference, but how big inside 25yd is my question.
                      2006 NVG 6 5/8" BH Energy with Envy cams by S&S Archery
                      2006 AT NVG 8" BH Energy with Rev cams
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                      • #12
                        If you've been shooting your hunting rig at "325 FPS for years"...then that's pretty amazing right there!! To drop a few FPS to gain comfort would not be an issue for sure! As far as speed vs KE vs momentum.....It's all relative and highly overdone. I watched my boy shoot two deer last month with 24lbs of KE. Complete pass thrus on both deer at 22 and 25 yrds. He was shooting a custom Zipper trad bow so that pretty much throws KE out the window.

                        I killed my first buck with a 32 yard shot many years ago. Complete pass thru!! Had every bell and whistle known to man on my bow including an overdraw to create the speed demon it was!! It shot an amazing 198 FPS....throw speed out the window!!

                        The name of the game is to have what ever bow you are shooting totally matched from Shooter to Shot! That means matching up all the components perfectly to your bow and then super tuning that bow to maximize it's efficiency. Speed is good and so is an appropriate KE for the game you intend to harvest but accuracy and shot placement are a MUST!!

                        For you to "drop" to 300 or even 285 FPS is no big deal and if you are shooting and drawing more comfortably, that would be a GREAT trade off indeed!!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Natural Dad View Post
                          If you've been shooting your hunting rig at "325 FPS for years"...then that's pretty amazing right there!!
                          2-3 years. Envy, GTO, and now Energy/Envy hybrid.

                          I've been wanting one forever and I think I'm gonna pick it up. Thanks for all the advice guys.
                          2006 NVG 6 5/8" BH Energy with Envy cams by S&S Archery
                          2006 AT NVG 8" BH Energy with Rev cams
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                          • #14
                            @ 20 yds you wont know the difference.. Now if you head out west and start taking longer shots the speed difference will come into play some.. I say go for the switch if its a hard draw for you!

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                            • #15
                              Numbers are funny things......
                              Roger @ VIERANAS SAFARIS

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