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  • Hidden Insert Technology aka HIT

    :censored2: sucks...
    Cordwood and Lee's Custom Strings - coming soon!
    "Life is a dirty game, u need to play dirty to win"-@#Harris

  • #2
    Now Cord dont you be hatin on the best arrows in the world/Easton....lol...j/k...I had the same problem and went back to maxima hunters...I will probably try the carbonforce arrows this year....

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    • #3
      Thats one of the problems with HITs, if the glue isn't perfect or you dont use the chamfer stone they do Dat.
      I think the traditional collar inserts are better.

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      • #4
        I had some axis arrows do that and also crack in that area so I gave up on them...Its just how those inserts are I guess but not a good feeling when you see that....I hate that for ya Cord....

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        • #5
          Not a fan of the HIT inserts myself. You can do everything right, and still have this happen.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by L-train View Post
            I think the traditional collar inserts are better.
            Jeff and I were just having this exact conversation the other night.

            I went back to a traditional insert after busting the sides out of some Axis. That was both aggravating and expensive.

            Not a HIT guy myself.
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            • #7
              I use them with my epics and have never had this problem.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jaben620 View Post
                I use them with my epics and have never had this problem.
                Epics use HP inserts and H nocks, I dont think a Hit/x nock would fit, well maybe a little sloppy, hold on, Ill go check.... nope really loose.

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                • #9
                  What r u guy's shooting at that is making them do it?
                  Ive been shooting axis and fmj's since they came out and have never had a single problem. 1000's of shots and 100's of arrows.
                  Not calling ya out just want to know how they r doing it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by L-train View Post
                    Epics use HP inserts, I dont think a Hit would fit, well maybe a little sloppy, hold on, Ill go check....

                    Thats right. Nevermind. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by L-train View Post
                      Thats one of the problems with HITs, if the glue isn't perfect or you dont use the chamfer stone they do Dat.
                      I think the traditional collar inserts are better.
                      I did em all myself to perfection. From cutting the arrows, to glueing the inserts, to ASD'ing, and stoning the inside to perfection...I even rolled the arrows every 15min/or so while the glue was drying.

                      If you look back through my posts, about 400-500posts ago I predicted problems with these inserts. And I agree about trad inserts...in the same post I expressed a wish for reg ole inserts.

                      ...but in a tiny defense of FMJs/HIT, I will say that I didnt have any shaft tears on targets...they all happened on deer. I think when the arrow sticks in the ground after a passthru, some of the arrow is still in the deer(tiny doe) and the thing gets yanked to one side when the deer splits. ...and I did have one FMJ survived three deer before tearing.

                      I did leave atleast a 1/4" of play in the length...im wondering if I can remove the HITs, cut the arrow again, and pop in some reg ole inserts that fit proper.
                      Cordwood and Lee's Custom Strings - coming soon!
                      "Life is a dirty game, u need to play dirty to win"-@#Harris

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                      • #12
                        This is why people came out with that retro aluminum shaft collar. HIT arrows are 2 faced, one face is a super tough well spec'd arrow thats thin for great penatration and performance, the other face is the weak spot the insert creates.
                        This is why I think Epics are the best arrow $ for $. Same specs and quality with a better insert for less $.
                        And made in the USA.

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                        • #13
                          I had one do something like that once when I forgot to adjust my sight to 20yds after a longer shot(I have a bad habit of that). I hit my cousins steel clothes line pole. The feild tip actually broke and did that to the arrow though, the insert was still firmly glued in place.
                          Smile!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cordwood View Post
                            I did leave atleast a 1/4" of play in the length...im wondering if I can remove the HITs, cut the arrow again, and pop in some reg ole inserts that fit proper.
                            I would think you could, if you can get them out without wrecking the arrow. That may be a big PITA if you used epoxy
                            Smile!

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                            • #15
                              ive never had any problems what so ever with those arrows. ive made several dozen of them for different people. guess im just good at it.
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