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  • Gto Is A 350 Ibo Bow Clarification

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    GTO 29/70 337fps 500gr super slim 284fps w/peep - loop



    Who says the GTO is not a 350fps bow.Elite usses a chrono that is 7fps faster then most chrono's and i am sure their chrono is allot more accurate then most.The GTO speed rating is 340-350@30"70# idk any manufacturer that does not have a 10fps variance from bow to bow.If you take this bow that is getting 337fps and add 10fps for drawlength that puts it at 347 which makes it hit its mark then you add the 7fps that most chronos run slow to elites then you are at 354 and from the way i read it that with a peep and loop.That is above the speed it is suppost to.Crackers and micheal have done awesome things to these bows to get the speeds and make the bows shoot nicer,but you do not have to get them supertuned as they are awesome bows that shoot closer to advertised IBO out of the box then allot of bows out there.Sorry for the venting just getting sick of guys bashing Elite on speed i think a little knowledge and understanding is needed in this area.Their were a few bows that left elite that did not make speed and everyone knows this and they also know that they can call elite and elite will fix the issue free of charge so if you have an issue call elite,but first you might want to do some adding and make sure your bow is not closer then what you think.
    Last edited by trophytaker75; 04-17-2008, 01:54 PM.

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    Originally posted by trophytaker75 View Post
    Here's one
    GTO 29/70 337fps 500gr super slim 284fps w/peep - loop



    Who says the GTO is not a 350fps bow.Elite usses a chrono that is 7fps faster then most chrono's and i am sure their chrono is allot more accurate then most.The GTO speed rating is 340-350@30"70# idk any manufacturer that does not have a 10fps variance from bow to bow.If you take this bow that is getting 337fps and add 10fps for drawlength that puts it at 347 which makes it hit its mark then you add the 7fps that most chronos run slow to elites then you are at 354 and from the way i read it that with a peep and loop.
    Actually, aren't GTOs supposed to gain between 12-15fps going from 29" draw to 30"??? I may be incorrect on that, but if it is indeed correct and these numbers posted are true then this would be a 350-350+.

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    • #3
      I have tried the pro chrono and their lighting is terrible and they will always read slow. We have seen this at every ASA shoot we have been to....they use this machine. I have talked to many people that I didn't know who shot through it and asked how close it was to their chrono and it averages 5 - 7 fps slower

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      • #4
        TT- Sounds like your chrono is reading fast.

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        • #5
          The GTO speeds I listed was 1 that crackers done and is listed in the GTO posts it was not 1 of mine.I believe Crackers has done some testing and his chrono is fairly accurate to allot of peoples on here dont know how far off from Elites it is though.

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          • #6
            Congrats TT - I agree. I am at at 348fps IBO/AMO - Thanks Michael!!!
            Change is Mandatory - Growth is Optional

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            • #7
              Nothing against the GTO; I WANT ONE.....but,
              I will believe 350 FPS when I see it come up on the chrony as that......Speed calculators are O.K to play with but, I don't go by nothing but the real speeds myself.

              The adding "10 FPS per inch", "per pound of draw", and "wieght on the string" are just calculations...
              I have seen many a speed bows that do not (as well as some that do) meet these calculation numbers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Crackers View Post
                I have tried the pro chrono and their lighting is terrible and they will always read slow. We have seen this at every ASA shoot we have been to....they use this machine. I have talked to many people that I didn't know who shot through it and asked how close it was to their chrono and it averages 5 - 7 fps slower
                Which chrono have you found to give accurate readings below $200?

                Thanks for the feedback.

                e
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ICH BIN View Post
                  Which chrono have you found to give accurate readings below $200?

                  Thanks for the feedback.

                  e

                  I have $1 that says he uses the archery model listed here: www.chrony.ca

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                  • #10
                    What do I win if your right?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Crackers View Post
                      What do I win if your right?
                      3 fps.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trophytaker75 View Post
                        Here's one
                        GTO 29/70 337fps 500gr super slim 284fps w/peep - loop



                        Who says the GTO is not a 350fps bow.Elite usses a chrono that is 7fps faster then most chrono's and i am sure their chrono is allot more accurate then most.The GTO speed rating is 340-350@30"70# idk any manufacturer that does not have a 10fps variance from bow to bow.If you take this bow that is getting 337fps and add 10fps for drawlength that puts it at 347 which makes it hit its mark then you add the 7fps that most chronos run slow to elites then you are at 354 and from the way i read it that with a peep and loop.That is above the speed it is suppost to.Crackers and micheal have done awesome things to these bows to get the speeds and make the bows shoot nicer,but you do not have to get them supertuned as they are awesome bows that shoot closer to advertised IBO out of the box then allot of bows out there.Sorry for the venting just getting sick of guys bashing Elite on speed i think a little knowledge and understanding is needed in this area.Their were a few bows that left elite that did not make speed and everyone knows this and they also know that they can call elite and elite will fix the issue free of charge so if you have an issue call elite,but first you might want to do some adding and make sure your bow is not closer then what you think.
                        I will second this in a heart beat.
                        LH 2010 STROTHER SR71
                        29in 65lbs IBO arrow peep + loop = 342.6fps
                        29in 65lbs 343gn Carbontech Peep+loop = 333fps.

                        LH 08.5 GT 500 Tuned to perfection by Maybee Archery
                        29in draw 72lbs 383gn arrow= 320fps.
                        61lbs 335gn arrow= 319fps.

                        07 LH AT GTO, (synergy with GTO cams) 40 lbs 26in draw (Wifes bow)

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                        Carbon Tech Cheetah's

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                        • #13
                          Thanks TT for the "venting". It needed to be said IMO.
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                          • #14
                            I would like to add my two cents on the chronograph issue here. It is not so much that Elite uses a chrono that is 7fps faster than others but they do use what is probably the most accurate. I have found after shooting over 100s of chronos around the country that most major brands are pretty accurate and you will get more variation off of lighting then you will by brand. I competed in IPSC (handgun) at the professional level and we had to make a certain velocity (minimum) or we were penalized. A 9mm bullet traveling at over 1400fps and we would only see about 10fps + or -. An arrow being much larger and easier to read will generally give a much smaller deviation. I own a Chrony, ProChrono, Pact and an Oehler and on any given day under the same lighting conditions all 4 will measure within 2fps on average (at 325fps). I get a bigger deviation shooting multiple arrows through the same chrono then I do when I shoot one through each in succession.

                            Where does all this get you? Owning a chrono is great so that you can try something new and check your results but they are not the best to compare to what someone on the other side of the country says they are getting. There is no magic 7fps difference between chronos but I do find it funny that an unfletched arrow(mine) gets exactly 7fps more than an identical fletched one and I bet that very few are testing their new GTO's with unfletched arrows.

                            Buy the best you can afford because just like the bows that we are shooting, you get what you pay for. Coincidentally, if I had to rate mine they would go, Oehler, Pact, ProChrono, Chrony which is also how they go from highest $ to lowest.

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                            • #15
                              WOW and i thought i was clarifying something so you are saying that it is possible that the 2 chrono's being the Oehler and the prochrony are shooting the same speed the only diff. is Elite like most manufacturers are using a bare shaft to get their speeds.It has always been known that bow manufacturers use a bareshaft for chronoing but i guess i never knew it would actually be faster guess i never even thought about trying it.I guess in my defense i always just figured 350 grn arrow would be the same no matter what And the inconveniance of fletching for a manufacturer would not be worth it.Is it possible that their sensors are better tuned and that is the real reason or are all oeler chrono's the same and how much does calibration and sensor alignment have to do with this.I have to admit i am chronographically challenged and have not really read up on this so I would really like to hear your veiws on this.Also in your opinion what is the best cheap press and what do you think about the bow mounted radar chrono's.Thanx

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