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    A few of my sights Ive used in the past, Ive noticed that I hace to slightly cant my bow to the right or left to get the bubble level . I thought it was just me and and just the landscape back ground messing with my . I also noticed on one of my vert. sights (yes proper spined arrows) that my higher yardage pins would be off by a few inches left or right after walk back tuning . So after all of that observing this over the last few yrs ,I have since put my bows in the bow vice to level out the string straight up and down and to the sides . Next I the would adjust the bubble housing on the sight ( most are adjustable that I have used ) .. Since then I have had no long range issues with windage and walk back tuning ... Just thought Id share my exp........
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    Using a sights 3 axis's and a bow vise and level is exactly how I set up a bow.

    but there is also alot written on setting your sights axis at fulldraw.

    You are spot on, its at distance a little cant will really show up..

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rodney482 View Post
      Using a sights 3 axis's and a bow vise and level is exactly how I set up a bow.

      but there is also alot written on setting your sights axis at fulldraw.

      You are spot on, its at distance a little cant will really show up..
      I have had people argue with me that this technique will not work. Then I actually showed them just how far off their sights were after using a sight leveling device then bolting it on there bow. Sometimes you just have to show people to make them believe.


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      • #4
        Thats for sure Z-Rider ,, just like the "pro" shop in my area says that broadheads and field points cant tune together nor do they need draw boards for their mathews bows .
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        • #5
          And thinking of it I will name the "pro" shop ,, Its Delta Out Fitters in Vicksburg MS
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          • #6
            That's the beauty of having a 3rd axis adjustment on the sight housing.

            Knowing how to tune your bow and doing it yourself are also pluses. Most pro shop will spend about 45 - 60 minutes to set up and tune your bow. Those that set up and tune their own bow(s) know that this is just a starting point. Fine tuning any bow requires lots of time to shoot-press-tweak, ............................, shoot-press-tweak. To have a bow fully tuned requires lots of time and I don't blame the shop as time is money. On the other hand, most shops are only as good as the tech. that works on the bow.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mongopino915 View Post
              That's the beauty of having a 3rd axis adjustment on the sight housing.

              Knowing how to tune your bow and doing it yourself are also pluses. Most pro shop will spend about 45 - 60 minutes to set up and tune your bow. Those that set up and tune their own bow(s) know that this is just a starting point. Fine tuning any bow requires lots of time to shoot-press-tweak, ............................, shoot-press-tweak. To have a bow fully tuned requires lots of time and I don't blame the shop as time is money. On the other hand, most shops are only as good as the tech. that works on the bow.
              I agree and disagree with this. Most bows are very easy to setup and tune, if the tech knows what he is doing and has the right equiptment. 3 out of 5 of my Elites were tuned by a pro, with new strings installed in less then 15 minutes and shot perfect. Some bows can be a pain, but I have only had 1 that took me more then 45 minutes to setup and tune, an I am no pro. Most problems are created when one tinkers and does not keep proper notes on exactly where they started and what they have done.
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              • #8
                Its 2nd axis that this thread is about, 3rd axis, can effect this slightly but is really for up/downhill shots.

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                • #9
                  So, what do you do if your 2nd axis is off? My sights are third axis adjustable, but I too have noticed if I follow the level bubble at 40-50 yds, I am off a few inches. That's shooting on level ground. If I hold the bow where it feels natural, I am right on, but the level bubble says I'm off. Guess I don't need the bubble, but it would be nice for consistency.
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                  • #10
                    Yep bubbles are only good after you level the sight. The only sights I have ever shot that were on or darn close to being on are CBEs. They still may need to be adjusted slightly.

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                    • #11
                      How do you adjust the level? All I see on my sight is 2 small Allen screws that attach it to the housing.
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                      HHA DS-5519, QAD HDX, Stokerized 10" Hunter
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                      • #12
                        Some sights do not have an adjustment for 2nd axis, you put them on your bow, level it and if the bubble is off, all you can do is try to shim the sight. It's a pain in the *%# to do, but I use some very thin rubber cut in small pieces and keep shimming until the bubble is right. Now, when I buy a sight, I try to make sure it can be adjusted.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mfr22@msn.com View Post
                          Some sights do not have an adjustment for 2nd axis, you put them on your bow, level it and if the bubble is off, all you can do is try to shim the sight. It's a pain in the *%# to do, but I use some very thin rubber cut in small pieces and keep shimming until the bubble is right. Now, when I buy a sight, I try to make sure it can be adjusted.
                          Thanks! I don't think mine has 2nd axis adjustment. May get a different sight in the near future.
                          2011 Pulse, AT/AP, 29.5"/72lbs
                          HHA DS-5519, QAD HDX, Stokerized 10" Hunter
                          GT Velocity XT arrows , G5 Magloc Compact Quiver

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                          • #14
                            I used to run Sword Twilight Hunters and had 2 on different bows at the same time. On one bow I had a heck of a time getting it to level. Turns out the the level was not placed "level" in the sight. They sent me a new sight ring to replace the crooked one.

                            Now I use Spott Hogg Hunters with 3rd axis adjustment, set it at full draw and I'm good to go. Sometimes is plays with your eyes and you think you are holding the bow level but your not. If you have your sight set up correctly, trust the bubble, it can't lie!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pulse76 View Post
                              Thanks! I don't think mine has 2nd axis adjustment. May get a different sight in the near future.
                              What sight do you have. It is a very small percentage that don't have a second axis adjustment.

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