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    Well, I just changed to 70# limbs on my 07 synergy and was out shooting it after getting it all tuned. Cams are in sync, draw length is 29, I just haven't measured draw weight yet. I was out shooting and it is shooting great. Slapping arrows group after group. I decide to shoot a broadhead(at 20 yards) and it hits 3" to the left, height is good though. I try a different broadhead same result. This is telling me my spine is weak as I am a Lefty shooter. I try to move my rest and the distance doesn't change. I moved the rest a little more but still no change. I am shooting Carbon Express maxima hunters 350 at 28.5 inches. I checked with OT2 and it confirms that I am on the weak side by quite a bit. The spine OT2 is telling me I need is about a 280 spine. I have a few CX Mutiny 350 arrows that I could try to cut down in length to see if I get any improvement. Is there anything else I can do besides getting new arrows? I really don't want to turn down the poundage any either. Thanks for any insight and help.
    07 LH Synergy 70#
    04 RH PSE Bruin (What got me into bowhunting)

  • #2
    I know you don't want to turn the poundage down, but before you start cutting arrows down, I would. Atleast you will know if stiffer arrows are what you need.

    I'm at 28" draw, 27 1/2" .400 spine arrows with 100 gr. tips @ 66# draw weight. BHs were 2" from FPs with no reaction from rest adjustments at 70#. Took it down about 3/4 of a turn and they started hitting the same. I primarily use this bow for spots so the drop in weight worked for me.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cokepelli View Post
      Well, I just changed to 70# limbs on my 07 synergy and was out shooting it after getting it all tuned. Cams are in sync, draw length is 29, I just haven't measured draw weight yet. I was out shooting and it is shooting great. Slapping arrows group after group. I decide to shoot a broadhead(at 20 yards) and it hits 3" to the left, height is good though. I try a different broadhead same result. This is telling me my spine is weak as I am a Lefty shooter. I try to move my rest and the distance doesn't change. I moved the rest a little more but still no change. I am shooting Carbon Express maxima hunters 350 at 28.5 inches. I checked with OT2 and it confirms that I am on the weak side by quite a bit. The spine OT2 is telling me I need is about a 280 spine. I have a few CX Mutiny 350 arrows that I could try to cut down in length to see if I get any improvement. Is there anything else I can do besides getting new arrows? I really don't want to turn down the poundage any either. Thanks for any insight and help.
      Move your sight come hunting season....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by evworld View Post
        Move your sight come hunting season....
        For some people, that works. For others, they want there bows tuned to perfection and require BHs and FPs to hit together. The OP and I seem to be the latter of the two.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 2lunger View Post
          For some people, that works. For others, they want there bows tuned to perfection and require BHs and FPs to hit together. The OP and I seem to be the latter of the two.
          I understand that moving the sight is not the answer for everyone. I never used OT2 but 350 spinned arrow should work fine. I would look else where. Fletching contact, etc. I don't know of anyone that used a spine lower that 340.

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          • #6
            Yeah I will try to lower the poundage today. If that works I will try to cut down a couple arrows that I have as spares. If that works then I will cut down my primary arrows. It just seems odd to me that I would need such a stiff spine.
            07 LH Synergy 70#
            04 RH PSE Bruin (What got me into bowhunting)

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            • #7
              Turning down the poundage did not work...it actually got worse. It has to be something else. I am glad that we have good weather this year and I am starting early trying to get everything in tune. This is frustrating though.
              07 LH Synergy 70#
              04 RH PSE Bruin (What got me into bowhunting)

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              • #8
                Did you reset your center shot after tuning the poundage down
                Mathews Switchback XT
                2009 Elite GT500

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by duda View Post
                  Did you reset your center shot after tuning the poundage down
                  No, I didn't think I would have had too. I wouldn't think that center shot would have to be changed.
                  07 LH Synergy 70#
                  04 RH PSE Bruin (What got me into bowhunting)

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                  • #10
                    Not sure what or how your doing this so Ill spit out my method and see if it helps.
                    First thing I do if the broad head is left say 3 inches is slightly move the rest to the right and "resight in my field points to make sure they are hitting dead on.
                    Second is check another broad head and see if the difference is closer. Usually is. then make another rest change if I have to.
                    all this is assuming their isnt any contact issues. and proper spine or close is right. You can adjust some pretty off spines doing this. But chase your tail off by not starting with POI dead on each time with field points again.
                    If Im inside too far with center shot. Ill stiffen spine if Im out side too far weaken. unless its a fight then Ill shim the cams to help. But most times tweaking the spine or rest will get where I need it. JMO!
                    OT2 I use for reference only. Because most times it sets me up too stiff. I think its related to my draw length.
                    No ifs and or buts Just maybee.

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                    • #11
                      No I didn't resight in my field points I will try again later as I am on Dad duty right now. I think I can get everything figured out it is just going to take time and patience.
                      07 LH Synergy 70#
                      04 RH PSE Bruin (What got me into bowhunting)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cokepelli View Post
                        Well, I just changed to 70# limbs on my 07 synergy and was out shooting it after getting it all tuned. .
                        This might be your problem. Check to see if you have everything back together correctly. Are the cables routed threw the slide the right way?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Maybee-R View Post
                          Not sure what or how your doing this so Ill spit out my method and see if it helps.
                          First thing I do if the broad head is left say 3 inches is slightly move the rest to the right and "resight in my field points to make sure they are hitting dead on.
                          Second is check another broad head and see if the difference is closer. Usually is. then make another rest change if I have to.
                          all this is assuming their isnt any contact issues. and proper spine or close is right. You can adjust some pretty off spines doing this. But chase your tail off by not starting with POI dead on each time with field points again.
                          If Im inside too far with center shot. Ill stiffen spine if Im out side too far weaken. unless its a fight then Ill shim the cams to help. But most times tweaking the spine or rest will get where I need it. JMO!
                          OT2 I use for reference only. Because most times it sets me up too stiff. I think its related to my draw length.
                          This is the process I used last season while sighting in my BH's. I had my rest at the 7/8 set up as indicated by Elite. But my BH's were shooting 2-3 inches to the left of FP's. So I moved my rest in several times, resighting my FP's and checking my BH's. I ended up getting them pretty close, but not exact. My FP's and BH's are about 3-4 clicks of the HHA sight, which isnt a whole lot. Theyre off by about half inch. I may mess with it some more this year to see if I can get them closer, but I just sight in my BH's with a few clicks, so no big deal. But yes this process helped alot.
                          2010.5 60# Z28 Real Tree
                          Elite 7" Stabilizer
                          HHA Slider sight
                          G5 Expert 2 arrow rest
                          Tree Limb Premium Quiver
                          Harvest Time Arrows/Deer Crossing Archery Arrows
                          Ramcat BH's

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