Well here it goes. I am going to be as factual as possible and not get into my anger. I was informed today that my order on the z28 will not come. To my understanding they will not send out the old style Z28 with or without cuda cams/revolution cams. The bow is the new style of Z28 which has a different riser, different cams and I am not even sure on the other stats but is definitely slower and no option of cuda cams. I am going to talk to Lonnie or Kristen tomorrow.