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    I went to 60lbs on my XLR and it paid off. Hit 300 55X last night on XLR. Just wasnt getting there with 50lbs. Nathan Brooks and some say they cant shoot the low poundage indoors or out. Im begginning to understand.

    Whats everyone shooting on there Elites?

    I was hoping to shoot low poundage to help my arthitus in my shoulders.
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    with the solid back wall elites have I just dont understand what upping the poundage can change???? seems to me you could pull as hard as you want on the back wall.

    then again ive never shot anything other than a 70 lb bow maxed out.

    DB, cant you adj. cam rotation and drawstop settings to get a lower let off at 50 lbs rather than put your shoulder through the ringer at 60?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slugger View Post
    with the solid back wall elites have I just dont understand what upping the poundage can change???? seems to me you could pull as hard as you want on the back wall.

    then again ive never shot anything other than a 70 lb bow maxed out.

    DB, cant you adj. cam rotation and drawstop settings to get a lower let off at 50 lbs rather than put your shoulder through the ringer at 60?
    As far as solid back wall goes, yes these elites are very solid. But as far as just pulling into them as hard as you can is not the same as poundage pulling against your release. Plus the harder you pull against the stops the more movement you will get from your pin. You can pull off target by using this technique really easy.
    As far as let off goes I did just that on my XLR and got the holding weight and length of valley where I wanted it and was able to turn the bow down from 59 to 57 lbs.
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    Default DB you can adjust holding weight

    You can get more holding weight and keep drawlength and valley the same.
    You can do it a couple different ways. If you want to keep the drawlength the same as it is then just moving the stops will shorten it. What I did was take 3 twist out of the string and add 1 twist to each cable. That lengthened my draw by around 1/8 in. I then moved the stops forward which shortened the draw, valley, and lowered the letoff and which increased holding weight.
    Another option is to go to the next cam size of 29in. Move the stops forward until you get letoff where you want it. You may need to put around 4 twist in the strings to shorten the draw lenth just a little.
    Either of these will get the holding weight where you want it w/ out having to shoot 60lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heaterht View Post
    You can get more holding weight and keep drawlength and valley the same.
    You can do it a couple different ways. If you want to keep the drawlength the same as it is then just moving the stops will shorten it. What I did was take 3 twist out of the string and add 1 twist to each cable. That lengthened my draw by around 1/8 in. I then moved the stops forward which shortened the draw, valley, and lowered the letoff and which increased holding weight.
    Another option is to go to the next cam size of 29in. Move the stops forward until you get letoff where you want it. You may need to put around 4 twist in the strings to shorten the draw lenth just a little.
    Either of these will get the holding weight where you want it w/ out having to shoot 60lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heaterht View Post
    You can get more holding weight and keep drawlength and valley the same.
    You can do it a couple different ways. If you want to keep the drawlength the same as it is then just moving the stops will shorten it. What I did was take 3 twist out of the string and add 1 twist to each cable. That lengthened my draw by around 1/8 in. I then moved the stops forward which shortened the draw, valley, and lowered the letoff and which increased holding weight.
    Another option is to go to the next cam size of 29in. Move the stops forward until you get letoff where you want it. You may need to put around 4 twist in the strings to shorten the draw lenth just a little.
    Either of these will get the holding weight where you want it w/ out having to shoot 60lbs.
    Dan

    But dont you shorten the valley on these cams doing that. My cuda cams dont have hardly any valley at all. You best not creep. I think its going to be OK. I have not played enough with the strings and draw stop. Got a new string coming might try this and do some playing around with it. I need to get a digital scale first.
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    Yes moving the stops shortens the valley. Maybe the second option of going to the 29 in reg rev cam will help you out more. I know the valley on mine was actually very long and I had to shorten my stops to get rid of most of the valley. I know what you mean about a super short valley. My GTO was that way when I had the stops set to far forward. I don't have any experience w those cuda cams to be able to help you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heaterht View Post
    Yes moving the stops shortens the valley. Maybe the second option of going to the 29 in reg rev cam will help you out more. I know the valley on mine was actually very long and I had to shorten my stops to get rid of most of the valley. I know what you mean about a super short valley. My GTO was that way when I had the stops set to far forward. I don't have any experience w those cuda cams to be able to help you out.
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    Bow shot great. Quess the shoulder will just have to be sore.

    Its just indoor shooting 60 arrows that its a promblem.

    Thanks for the advise.
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    Seems holding more weight on the letoff helped my scores last time i shot. and a little flatter shooting helped as well.

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