O.K i started the conversation about the performance of these bows in another thread and needed to get it on a thread of it's own so here we go. Anyone have both the Envy and or GTO or GT500? I am wondering what real life numbers are coming form these in comparison to the Envy? From conversations with a couple of respected tuners i have come to the conclusion the Envy is still top dog. And i am aware the draw may be a little more harsh but with all things i have seen posted from string issues to un obtainable numbers i still have to wonder if the Envy will be topped? The two i have are shooting 303-310 with a 420-428 grain arrows at 29" draw. I know the draw is almost a 1/4" long after adding gripwerks one piece grips but they fit me that way. Is the draw on the GT500 that much more smooth than the Envy? Noise is not an issue on any of todays new bows in my opinion. Lets hear your thoughts.